Comments on: Kanryuu Sonata http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/ Japan... A whole lot more than raw fish Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:48:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: True http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-221606 True Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:49:25 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-221606 Resistance in　JAPAN are u crazy? do u really know the history of colonization of KOREA? Well, I saw a picture from a Japanese solider who cut up the head of korean civilian laughing at it. Do you want to see it? It really sick. Do You really believe that Japanese force build up those kind of stuff? I say Japan can lie for more than 100 years. They will lie until Korea become world 2nd largest industralized country. I think that is impossible. Japan have large finacial support for propanganda. Resistance in　JAPAN are u crazy?
do u really know the history of colonization of KOREA? Well, I saw a picture from a Japanese solider who cut up the head of korean civilian laughing at it. Do you want to see it?
It really sick.
Do You really believe that Japanese force build up those kind of stuff?
I say Japan can lie for more than 100 years. They will lie until Korea become world 2nd largest industralized country.
I think that is impossible. Japan have large finacial support for propanganda.

]]> By: KokuRyu http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-208093 KokuRyu Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:29:08 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-208093 Okay, you're right - there's a tremendous amount of weirdness on the Korean side these days. The cold war is over on the Korean peninsula these days, as they say, and it's more than a little distressing to consider the amount of influence NORK has on the South Korean government. However, let me flog a dead horse here: it took a lot of coordination between Korea and Japan to host that World Cup, which is a good thing, I would say. Okay, you’re right – there’s a tremendous amount of weirdness on the Korean side these days. The cold war is over on the Korean peninsula these days, as they say, and it’s more than a little distressing to consider the amount of influence NORK has on the South Korean government.

However, let me flog a dead horse here: it took a lot of coordination between Korea and Japan to host that World Cup, which is a good thing, I would say.

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-208092 Anonymous Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:23:48 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-208092 Sorry, make that last note read "not call". Sorry, make that last note read “not call”.

]]> By: Ampontan http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-208090 Ampontan Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:22:43 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-208090 I would call the joint hosting of the World Cup a "good thing". It was held jointly as a result of Korean pressure, and in actual practice, I got little sense from the Korean side that they were involved in a joint activity. Case in point: The Japanese had a poster design for the World Cup that featured the outline of a soccer pitch, complete with center line, viewed vertically. The Koreans objected to this design because it resembled the first character in "Nihon" too closely. They insisted that the poster be redesigned to angle the pitch. That pretty much speaks for the Korean attitude--in a lot of things--right there. I would call the joint hosting of the World Cup a “good thing”. It was held jointly as a result of Korean pressure, and in actual practice, I got little sense from the Korean side that they were involved in a joint activity.

Case in point: The Japanese had a poster design for the World Cup that featured the outline of a soccer pitch, complete with center line, viewed vertically.

The Koreans objected to this design because it resembled the first character in “Nihon” too closely. They insisted that the poster be redesigned to angle the pitch.

That pretty much speaks for the Korean attitude–in a lot of things–right there.

]]> By: KokuRyu http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-208067 KokuRyu Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:13:53 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-208067 Like I said, Foobar, having read the manga, I just can't agree the manga is informative. It's just that there have been so many good things recently - Korea relaxed its rules over Japanese cultural imports, the World Cup both countries hosted,increased visits between the two countries, and, of course, the Kan-Ryuu (Han-Ryuu), or Korean Wave in Japan and the rest of Asia. I just don't buy the argument that "Korea was so much better off after the Japanese came and developed the country" or "Korean labourers came to Japan voluntarily during the war." That's racism talking, and colonialism, and the manga does a great disservice to Japan and the Japanese people. Like I said, Foobar, having read the manga, I just can’t agree the manga is informative. It’s just that there have been so many good things recently – Korea relaxed its rules over Japanese cultural imports, the World Cup both countries hosted,increased visits between the two countries, and, of course, the Kan-Ryuu (Han-Ryuu), or Korean Wave in Japan and the rest of Asia.

I just don’t buy the argument that “Korea was so much better off after the Japanese came and developed the country” or “Korean labourers came to Japan voluntarily during the war.” That’s racism talking, and colonialism, and the manga does a great disservice to Japan and the Japanese people.

]]> By: foobar http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-208047 foobar Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:58:02 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-208047 Kokuryu, your criticism may be right, but this manga is surely quite informative. It deals with a lot of issues which Japanese mass media has been avoiding for a long time, probably, due to the political reasons. I guess many Japanese, especially young ones, are now starting to wonder what's behind the Korea-Japan relationship. Kokuryu, your criticism may be right, but this manga is surely quite informative. It deals with a lot of issues which Japanese mass media has been avoiding for a long time, probably, due to the political reasons.
I guess many Japanese, especially young ones, are now starting to wonder what’s behind the Korea-Japan relationship.

]]> By: Resistance in　JAPAN http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207897 Resistance in　JAPAN Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:17:11 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207897 I examined material thinking that Korean people protected it. And, I learnt the thing that Korean people had kept telling the lie. Japanese do not have what to Korean people are permitted any longer. kokuryu｡ You said that this cartoon was the anti-Korean. You are a little wrong like that exactly. It doesn't come to impeach them in such a halfway content. The dignity of Japan was very damaged by their behavior. Korean people say that they kill many Korean people by Japanese, plunder from Korea, and deprived of the name and the character. However, the population of Korean people is in colonial times twice. Japan built a huge dam in Korea, built the railway, established the school, modernized the city, and the teacher in Japan taught a Korean language and a learning Korean language and Japanese were taught positively. Korean people was given the suffrage of Japan and put it out to the assembly member. Japan enriched Korea. Korean people became a senior bureaucrat like the real name, and it became the officer of the army and it became the movie director, Diet member, the aristocrat, and a judge. What is the return? It is anti-Japan! They had Japan do a disgrace desire. My resistance will be turned by not only an ugly politician in Japan but also arrogant Korean people today. Nobody can stop our patriotism any longer. My anger doesn't have settled what if reflecting keeping tell the lie for 60 years by Korean people neither or keeping the deprivation of the boast of Japan. I examined material thinking that Korean people protected it.
And, I learnt the thing that Korean people had kept telling the lie.
Japanese do not have what to Korean people are permitted any longer.
kokuryu｡
You said that this cartoon was the anti-Korean.
You are a little wrong like that exactly.
It doesn’t come to impeach them in such a halfway content.
The dignity of Japan was very damaged by their behavior.
Korean people say that they kill many Korean people by Japanese, plunder from Korea,
and deprived of the name and the character.
However, the population of Korean people is in colonial times twice.
Japan built a huge dam in Korea, built the railway, established the school, modernized the city, and the teacher in Japan taught a Korean language and a learning Korean language and Japanese were taught positively.
Korean people was given the suffrage of Japan and put it out to the assembly member.
Japan enriched Korea.
Korean people became a senior bureaucrat like the real name, and it
became the officer of the army and it became the movie director, Diet
member, the aristocrat, and a judge.
What is the return?
It is anti-Japan! They had Japan do a disgrace desire.
My resistance will be turned by not only an ugly politician in Japan but also
arrogant Korean people today.
Nobody can stop our patriotism any longer.
My anger doesn’t have settled what if reflecting keeping tell the lie for 60 years by Korean people neither or keeping the deprivation of the boast of Japan.

]]> By: Googlist http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207896 Googlist Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:09:58 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207896 <a href="http://bbs.enjoykorea.jp/jaction/list.php?id=enjoyjapan_8&work=search&st=subject&sw=日帝&cp=1" rel="nofollow"> Hey,who said korean is poor? They are very alogance poor.</a>
Hey,who said korean is poor?
They are very alogance poor.

]]> By: Googlist http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207894 Googlist Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:34:53 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207894 <!-- spamk : Comment text: 'It should not worry about you so much. The fellow who wants to read only has to read. Do you know why Japanese like　reading? Because the mass communication in Japan doesn't report any important thing,　and important things are being written in books. There is freedom of publication though there is no press freedom in Japan. ' matched ((holdem|texas|poker|casino|online|gambl|blackjack|game|free).*){2,} --> It should not worry about you so much. The fellow who wants to read only has to read. Do you know why Japanese like　reading? Because the mass communication in Japan doesn't report any important thing,　and important things are being written in books. There is freedom of publication though there is no press freedom in Japan.
It should not worry about you so much.
The fellow who wants to read only has to read.

Do you know why Japanese like　reading?

Because the mass communication in Japan doesn’t report any important thing,　and important things are being written in books.
There is freedom of publication though there is no press freedom in Japan.

]]> By: KokuRyu http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207892 KokuRyu Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:09:16 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207892 Gimme a break, Googlist. The manga says a lot of frankly anti-Korean things. Gimme a break, Googlist. The manga says a lot of frankly anti-Korean things.

]]> By: Googlist http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207891 Googlist Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:08:15 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207891 <a href="http://www.enjoykorea.jp/" rel="nofollow"> sorry mistake </a>
sorry mistake

]]> By: Googlist http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207890 Googlist Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:07:05 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207890 ENJOY JAPAN This manga doesn,t say false ,but actually It talks ironically. There is often interesting. It is good when not doing too much seriously and reading happily. If you want to know more about korea. This site is good for you. Don,t worry this site is written by Japanese. i have this manga now Content of this manga South Korean's disgraceful behavior in the Japan-South Korea World Cup Amends demand of lie Lie of Korean people in Japan Japanese culture of South Korea plagiarism Anti-Japanese mass communication Is the South Korean the most excellent in the world? Foreigner suffrage Development of South Korea at colonial epoch Takeshima invasion by South Korea This author drew this cartoon so that Japan and South Korea may build up a feeling of real friendship. And, the highest advertiser of this manga was South Korea. South Korea total mobilized the nation and criticized this manga. The Japanese people were interested in this　manga as a result. If you want to know more about korea. This site is good for you. Don,t worry this site is written by Japanese. <a href="http://www.enjoykorea.jp/" rel="nofollow"> </a> ENJOY JAPAN
This manga doesn,t say false ,but actually It talks ironically. There is often interesting.
It is good when not doing too much seriously and reading happily.

If you want to know more about korea.
This site is good for you.
Don,t worry this site is written by Japanese.
i have this manga now
Content of this manga

South Korean’s disgraceful behavior in the Japan-South Korea World Cup

Amends demand of lie

Lie of Korean people in Japan

Japanese culture of South Korea plagiarism

Anti-Japanese mass communication

Is the South Korean the most excellent in the world?

Foreigner suffrage

Development of South Korea at colonial epoch

Takeshima invasion by South Korea

This author drew this cartoon so that Japan and South Korea may build up a
feeling of real friendship.
And, the highest advertiser of this manga was South Korea.
South Korea total mobilized the nation and criticized this manga.
The Japanese people were interested in this　manga as a result.

If you want to know more about korea.
This site is good for you.
Don,t worry this site is written by Japanese.

]]> By: KokuRyu http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207886 KokuRyu Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:16:42 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207886 Having read the original manga (thanks, JP!) I would have to say it's a junvenile rant aimed solely at university geeks who would have once joined the Ayn Rand Objectivist club back in uni. Not a good manga. Having read the original manga (thanks, JP!) I would have to say it’s a junvenile rant aimed solely at university geeks who would have once joined the Ayn Rand Objectivist club back in uni. Not a good manga.

]]> By: Chris http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-207858 Chris Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:52:19 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-207858 This has to be published in English!!! I just can't wait!!! At last a manga that describes how I feel. Chris Yongsan Garrison, Seoul This has to be published in English!!! I just can’t wait!!! At last a manga that describes how I feel.

Chris
Yongsan Garrison, Seoul

]]> By: Ampontan http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-143165 Ampontan Tue, 02 Aug 2005 02:39:00 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-143165 "Just when Japan seemed to be “getting it”, with the young people adjusting to a new world order and the truth of world history, along comes this anti-Korea Wave manga shite." I think you might missing one important point here. Remember that the Korean Wave started because of the popularity of Korean TV and movies (with coincidental factors that have been bubbling for a long time, including more people traveling to South Korea, more people studying Korean, etc.). That hasn't stopped. What I'm saying is that Japan isn't just A or B. Things coexist, just like in any other country. And just because people buy and read a comic book, doesn't mean they agree with it. The Japanese buy and read a lot of comic books, and they seem to be driven to keep up date with what's topical and popular. “Just when Japan seemed to be “getting it”, with the young people adjusting to a new world order and the truth of world history, along comes this anti-Korea Wave manga shite.”

I think you might missing one important point here.

Remember that the Korean Wave started because of the popularity of Korean TV and movies (with coincidental factors that have been bubbling for a long time, including more people traveling to South Korea, more people studying Korean, etc.). That hasn’t stopped.

What I’m saying is that Japan isn’t just A or B. Things coexist, just like in any other country.

And just because people buy and read a comic book, doesn’t mean they agree with it. The Japanese buy and read a lot of comic books, and they seem to be driven to keep up date with what’s topical and popular.

]]> By: KokuRyu http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-143004 KokuRyu Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:10:13 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-143004 Changed, and thanks for pointing that out. We have the entire "Fuyu no Sonata" on DVD, but I haven't hooked the player up to the tv, yet, so there the collection sits, gathering dust. Any reason you don't like Bae Yong Joon? Is it a Jude Law type of thing? Changed, and thanks for pointing that out. We have the entire “Fuyu no Sonata” on DVD, but I haven’t hooked the player up to the tv, yet, so there the collection sits, gathering dust.

Any reason you don’t like Bae Yong Joon? Is it a Jude Law type of thing?

]]> By: Charles http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-143003 Charles Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:21:32 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-143003 The Korean actor's name is Bae Yong Joon, Hate his guts, personally, but I just thought we should get the name right. The Korean actor’s name is Bae Yong Joon, Hate his guts, personally, but I just thought we should get the name right.

]]> By: KokuRyu http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-142988 KokuRyu Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:52:06 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-142988 Yeah, but if that's the case, then what sort of slant does Kan-Ken-Ryuu adopt? I'm currently residing away from Japan, and can't buy the book. If anyone manages to read it, please give a report! Yeah, but if that’s the case, then what sort of slant does Kan-Ken-Ryuu adopt? I’m currently residing away from Japan, and can’t buy the book. If anyone manages to read it, please give a report!

]]> By: Marie http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-142987 Marie Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:38:09 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-142987 I'm assuming that "historical origins" has in part to do with the idea/fact that much of early Japanese culture came from Korea. Tombs, for example, bear paintings identical to those in Korea. Many of the great Nara and Asuka artists were presumably Korean. Many Koreans like to note that the Japanese effectively "stole" their culture. I’m assuming that “historical origins” has in part to do with the idea/fact that much of early Japanese culture came from Korea. Tombs, for example, bear paintings identical to those in Korea. Many of the great Nara and Asuka artists were presumably Korean. Many Koreans like to note that the Japanese effectively “stole” their culture.

]]> By: Ray http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/comment-page-1/#comment-142983 Ray Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:09:50 +0000 http://japundit.com/archives/2005/08/01/956/#comment-142983 I agree, but there's always a group out there ready to screw up everything for everyone else. Except I didn't know they were capable of propaganda like this on such a large scale... I agree, but there’s always a group out there ready to screw up everything for everyone else. Except I didn’t know they were capable of propaganda like this on such a large scale…

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