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	<title>Comments on: OhmyNews Japan Ready to Launch</title>
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	<description>Japan... A whole lot more than raw fish</description>
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		<title>By: the big switch &#187; Korea&#8217;s latest cultural export to Japan: citizen journalism</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-290002</link>
		<dc:creator>the big switch &#187; Korea&#8217;s latest cultural export to Japan: citizen journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So will OhmyNews succeed in Japan? According to an interesting post at Japundit, the new chief editor himself, Shuntaro Torigoe, sees 3 barriers:  1) Attitude to Politics In Korea, many citizens are very involved in politics often voicing their opinions and protests.In Japan politics is often seen as a horse race. Many people are content with current Prime Koizumi. Those who are not are not very vocal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So will OhmyNews succeed in Japan? According to an interesting post at Japundit, the new chief editor himself, Shuntaro Torigoe, sees 3 barriers:  1) Attitude to Politics In Korea, many citizens are very involved in politics often voicing their opinions and protests.In Japan politics is often seen as a horse race. Many people are content with current Prime Koizumi. Those who are not are not very vocal. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Weber</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-289246</link>
		<dc:creator>David Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re welcome to try to punch me in the face, paul, but somehow I don&#039;t think you have the guts - stick to anonymous posting, my chum. :lol:

&lt;i&gt;I can’t imagine you having any friends&lt;/i&gt;
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Thanks for making me laugh, Paul! You nutter, you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re welcome to try to punch me in the face, paul, but somehow I don&#8217;t think you have the guts &#8211; stick to anonymous posting, my chum. <img src='http://blog.japundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>I can’t imagine you having any friends</i><br />
 <img src='http://blog.japundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:<br />
Thanks for making me laugh, Paul! You nutter, you!</p>
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		<title>By: AsiaPundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2006-07-21</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-289086</link>
		<dc:creator>AsiaPundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2006-07-21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Japundit » OhmyNews Japan Ready to Launch OhmyNews Japan hopes to copy the successful model of OhmyNews in Korea which has virtually create a media revolution of sorts. Citizen journalism has taken South Korea practically by storm. “Can it be done in Japan?” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Japundit » OhmyNews Japan Ready to Launch OhmyNews Japan hopes to copy the successful model of OhmyNews in Korea which has virtually create a media revolution of sorts. Citizen journalism has taken South Korea practically by storm. “Can it be done in Japan?” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kudan</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-288740</link>
		<dc:creator>Kudan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s actually a sad comment on the state of society nowadays: what usually happens in these &quot;flame wars&quot; is that one (or more) extremely simple-minded person focuses the discussion on an irrelevant personal attack in the form of a mindlessly repeated question (&quot;Have you read the textbook or not?&quot;). 

I think it comes from the patently idiotic yet puzzlingly popular notion that &quot;how can you criticize X if you yourself have never done X?&quot; It happens a lot when people try to say that someone&#039;s friend&#039;s painting or poem is a piece of trash: &quot;well, let&#039;s see YOU paint a picture!&quot; is the idiot&#039;s response. 

Think about it (which they don&#039;t; hence the problem): if the requirement for expressing an opinion on something was &quot;being proficient at producing it,&quot; we would have an extremely narrow and one-dimensional intellectual world. 

But I guess that&#039;s what the idiots want. 

Don&#039;t let the &quot;nutters&quot; get you down, David:smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually a sad comment on the state of society nowadays: what usually happens in these &#8220;flame wars&#8221; is that one (or more) extremely simple-minded person focuses the discussion on an irrelevant personal attack in the form of a mindlessly repeated question (&#8220;Have you read the textbook or not?&#8221;). </p>
<p>I think it comes from the patently idiotic yet puzzlingly popular notion that &#8220;how can you criticize X if you yourself have never done X?&#8221; It happens a lot when people try to say that someone&#8217;s friend&#8217;s painting or poem is a piece of trash: &#8220;well, let&#8217;s see YOU paint a picture!&#8221; is the idiot&#8217;s response. </p>
<p>Think about it (which they don&#8217;t; hence the problem): if the requirement for expressing an opinion on something was &#8220;being proficient at producing it,&#8221; we would have an extremely narrow and one-dimensional intellectual world. </p>
<p>But I guess that&#8217;s what the idiots want. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let the &#8220;nutters&#8221; get you down, David:smile:</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-288722</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Weber, I just read that crap for some reason, and you&#039;re an idiot.  Nobody hanged themselves with their own words or deeds.  You&#039;re just a moron and a troll who won&#039;t answer a simple question.  I would&#039;ve punched you in the face for that crap if it was a real-life conversation, because you deserved it.  I can&#039;t imagine you having any friends.

Maybe it should&#039;ve occured to you that bringing up the fact that &quot;many feel that Japan has not seriously owned up to its past misdeeds while at the same time adding salt to the wound by putting forth history textbooks that gloss over some of these past horrendous actions&quot; makes about as much sense as mentioning that some people think the moon landing was faked.  It&#039;s a delusion and just mentioning it gives it more credit than it deserves.  Who the hell says &quot;nutter&quot; anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Weber, I just read that crap for some reason, and you&#8217;re an idiot.  Nobody hanged themselves with their own words or deeds.  You&#8217;re just a moron and a troll who won&#8217;t answer a simple question.  I would&#8217;ve punched you in the face for that crap if it was a real-life conversation, because you deserved it.  I can&#8217;t imagine you having any friends.</p>
<p>Maybe it should&#8217;ve occured to you that bringing up the fact that &#8220;many feel that Japan has not seriously owned up to its past misdeeds while at the same time adding salt to the wound by putting forth history textbooks that gloss over some of these past horrendous actions&#8221; makes about as much sense as mentioning that some people think the moon landing was faked.  It&#8217;s a delusion and just mentioning it gives it more credit than it deserves.  Who the hell says &#8220;nutter&#8221; anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: David Weber</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-288452</link>
		<dc:creator>David Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why? Because I&#039;m a sick bastard who likes to watch nutters like that hang themselves with their own words and deeds. :twisted:

Also it serves a very good example of the dangers of extremism - the inability to listen or compromise.

I found the whole experience very enlightening and very funny too.

The best part was when I was excuse of being a propaganda tool of South Korea. That&#039;s classic! :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why? Because I&#8217;m a sick bastard who likes to watch nutters like that hang themselves with their own words and deeds. <img src='http://blog.japundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also it serves a very good example of the dangers of extremism &#8211; the inability to listen or compromise.</p>
<p>I found the whole experience very enlightening and very funny too.</p>
<p>The best part was when I was excuse of being a propaganda tool of South Korea. That&#8217;s classic! <img src='http://blog.japundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cloneofsnake</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-288315</link>
		<dc:creator>cloneofsnake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article on the Japanese Emperor... I just read it + the crazy comments.  I guess I&#039;m relatively new to Japundit, I&#039;ve never seen any trolls on here until your article.  It&#039;s a good thing they&#039;re blocked now! :razz: But David, why did you keep responding to them, when it was so obvious that they were immature trolls?  Not to mention they also lacked English reading comprehension skills?  You should&#039;ve just ignored them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article on the Japanese Emperor&#8230; I just read it + the crazy comments.  I guess I&#8217;m relatively new to Japundit, I&#8217;ve never seen any trolls on here until your article.  It&#8217;s a good thing they&#8217;re blocked now! <img src='http://blog.japundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' />  But David, why did you keep responding to them, when it was so obvious that they were immature trolls?  Not to mention they also lacked English reading comprehension skills?  You should&#8217;ve just ignored them.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weber</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-288237</link>
		<dc:creator>David Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think I attracted a few 2-Channel types on my Emperor thread last December :lol:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://japundit.com/archives/2005/12/29/1777/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Emperor story and flame war&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think I attracted a few 2-Channel types on my Emperor thread last December <img src='http://blog.japundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://japundit.com/archives/2005/12/29/1777/#comments" rel="nofollow">Emperor story and flame war</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kudan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kudan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japan already has a site similar to OhMyNews. It is called JanJan (http://www.janjan.jp/, Japanese only) and features citizen-produced articles. Their &quot;tagline&quot; is (originally in English): &quot;Japan Alternative News for Justices and New Cultures.&quot; (I think &quot;Justices&quot; is intended to mean &quot;justice&quot; as in &quot;fair, moral and impartial treatmeant&quot; rather than the plural of the word meaning &quot;judge.&quot;) 

It&#039;s a pretty lively site ... though not as lively as the famous (infamous?) 2-Channel (http://www.2ch.net/2ch.html), where Japanese defy the stereotype that they are &quot;not comfortable expressing themselves or getting into heated confrontational discussions.&quot; The merciless flaming and raw discussions that can be read there are its &quot;claim to fame.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japan already has a site similar to OhMyNews. It is called JanJan (<a href="http://www.janjan.jp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.janjan.jp/</a>, Japanese only) and features citizen-produced articles. Their &#8220;tagline&#8221; is (originally in English): &#8220;Japan Alternative News for Justices and New Cultures.&#8221; (I think &#8220;Justices&#8221; is intended to mean &#8220;justice&#8221; as in &#8220;fair, moral and impartial treatmeant&#8221; rather than the plural of the word meaning &#8220;judge.&#8221;) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pretty lively site &#8230; though not as lively as the famous (infamous?) 2-Channel (<a href="http://www.2ch.net/2ch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.2ch.net/2ch.html</a>), where Japanese defy the stereotype that they are &#8220;not comfortable expressing themselves or getting into heated confrontational discussions.&#8221; The merciless flaming and raw discussions that can be read there are its &#8220;claim to fame.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://blog.japundit.com/archives/2006/07/18/3096/comment-page-1/#comment-287983</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some interesting news... I wonder if it will even touch its Korean counterpart.  I&#039;m looking forward to watching how this will pan out, especially considering I will be spending much time in Japan for who-knows-how-long starting in a month...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some interesting news&#8230; I wonder if it will even touch its Korean counterpart.  I&#8217;m looking forward to watching how this will pan out, especially considering I will be spending much time in Japan for who-knows-how-long starting in a month&#8230;</p>
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